National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2006
as amended
made under subsection 99L (1) of the
This compilation was prepared on 17 March 2009
taking into account amendments up to National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Amendment Determination 2009 (No. 1)
Prepared by the Office of Legislative Drafting and Publishing,
Attorney‑General’s Department, Canberra
Contents
Part 1 Preliminary
1 Name of Determination [see Note 1]
2 Commencement
3 Revocation
4 Application
5 Transitional
6 Interpretation
6A Meanings of approved premises and redundant premises
7 Commercial establishments
8 Measurement of distance between premises
Part 2 Recommendations by the Authority
9 When Authority must recommend approval of applicant
10 When Authority must recommend applicant not be approved
Schedule 1 Kinds of applications, and requirements in relation to those applications
Part 1 Applications involving cancellation of existing approval
Part 2 Applications not involving cancellation of existing approval
Schedule 2 General requirements
Schedule 3 Requirements for applications involving cancellation of existing approval
Part 1 All applications
Part 2 Particular applications
Notes
1 Name of Determination [see Note 1]
(1) This Determination is the National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2006.
(2) This Determination may also be cited as Determination No. PB 23 of 2006.
This Determination commences on 1 July 2006.
The Pharmaceutical Benefits Determination under subsection 99L (1) made by the Minister on 6 January 2006, also known as Determination No. PB 8 of 2006, is revoked.
This Determination applies in relation to the consideration, by the Authority, of an application made on or after 1 July 2006.
The Pharmaceutical Benefits Determination under subsection 99L (1) made by the Minister on 6 January 2006, also known as Determination No. PB 8 of 2006, as in force immediately before 1 July 2006, continues to apply in relation to the consideration, by the Authority, of an application made before 1 July 2006.
(1) In this Determination:
Act means the National Health Act 1953.
application means an application under section 90 of the Act.
Note This Determination divides applications for approvals in respect of proposed premises into 2 classes:
applications that involve the cancellation of an existing approval (see Part 1 of Schedule 1); and
applications that do not involve the cancellation of an existing approval (see Part 2 of Schedule 1).
commercial establishment has the meaning given by section 7.
existing approval has the meaning given by paragraph 9 (a).
existing premises has the meaning given by paragraph 9 (a).
full-time, for a prescribing medical practitioner, means providing the services of a prescribing medical practitioner for at least 38 hours each week.
large medical centre means a medical centre that:
(a) is under single management; and
(b) operates for at least 70 hours a week; and
(c) has prescribing medical practitioners providing general practice services at the centre for at least 70 hours a week.
large shopping centre means a shopping centre that:
(a) has a gross leasable area of at least 5 000 m2; and
(b) contains a supermarket that occupies at least 1 000 m2; and
(c) contains at least 30 other commercial establishments; and
(d) has customer parking facilities.
PhARIA means the Pharmacy Access/Remoteness Index of Australia for 2008/09, prepared by the National Centre for Social Applications of GIS, University of Adelaide, for the Department of Health and Ageing.
pharmacy has the meaning given by subsection 90 (3AB) of the Act.
prescribing medical practitioner means a medical practitioner who provides general practice services to the community in which he or she practises, including the issuing of prescriptions for pharmaceutical benefits.
proposed premises, in relation to an application, means the premises at which an applicant proposes to supply pharmaceutical benefits.
rural locality means a locality classified as category 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 in the PhARIA.
shopping centre means a group of shops and associated facilities that is under single management.
single management, for a shopping centre or medical centre:
(a) means management of the centre as a whole:
(i) by 1 manager, or by 2 or more managers working cooperatively under an agreement; and
(ii) to encourage use of the centre as a single integrated facility; and
(iii) including management of the following matters for the centre:
(A) security;
(B) pedestrian and vehicular access;
(C) cleaning;
(D) signage;
(E) trading hours;
(F) marketing;
(G) maintenance of buildings, common areas and utilities; and
(b) does not include independent owners or tenants of premises in a building or centre that cooperate:
(i) on particular occasions; or
(ii) in relation to some but not all of the matters mentioned in subparagraph (a) (iii) in relation to the building or centre.
small shopping centre means a shopping centre that:
(a) has a gross leasable area of at least 5 000 m2; and
(b) contains a supermarket that occupies at least 2 500 m2; and
(c) contains at least 15 other commercial establishments; and
(d) has customer parking facilities.
supermarket means a retail store or market the primary business of which is the sale of a range of food, beverages, groceries and other domestic goods.
Note 1 Authority and pharmaceutical benefit are defined in subsection 84 (1) of the Act. Pharmacist and Secretary are defined in subsection 4 (1) of the Act.
Note 2 Medical practitioner and private hospital are defined in subsection 3 (1) of the Health Insurance Act 1973 and have the same meaning in the Act as in the Health Insurance Act 1973 — see subsection 4 (1A) of the Act.
(2) For this Determination, existing premises are taken not to be located in the same rural locality as proposed premises if the existing premises and the proposed premises are not located in the same town, city, State or Territory.
(3) In working out the number of commercial establishments in a shopping centre, 2 or more commercial establishments occupied by, or likely to be occupied by, 1 business are counted as 1 commercial establishment.
(4) For paragraph (a) of item 302 in Schedule 3, an existing approval in respect of existing premises in a large shopping centre, a private hospital or a rural locality is taken to have been in force for at least 2 years if the pharmacy operating from the existing premises has operated from premises in that large shopping centre, private hospital or rural locality for at least 2 years.
6A Meanings of approved premises and redundant premises
(1) For this Determination, approved premises are premises, other than redundant premises:
(a) in respect of which an approval granted under section 90 of the Act is in force; or
(b) in respect of which the Authority has recommended an applicant be approved under section 90 of the Act.
(2) Premises are redundant premises if all of the following apply:
(a) the premises are existing premises in relation to an application;
(b) the Authority has recommended that the applicant who made the application be approved under section 90 of the Act in respect of the proposed premises;
(c) the pharmacist approved in respect of the existing premises has requested, in writing, that if the applicant is to be approved in respect of the proposed premises, the existing approval will be cancelled immediately before the approval in respect of the proposed premises is granted;
(d) the pharmacist approved in respect of the existing premises has ceased to carry on business as a pharmacist at the approved premises;
(e) the Secretary:
(i) is aware of the cessation and of the reason for it; and
(ii) has agreed to cancel the existing approval only in accordance with a request of the kind mentioned in paragraph (c).
Note 1 Under paragraph 90E (b) of the Act, references in the Act to an approval granted under section 90 of the Act include references to an approval treated as having been granted under section 90 by paragraph 90E (a) of the Act.
Note 2 Under paragraph 91 (7) (c) of the Act, references in the Act to an approval granted under section 90 of the Act include references to an approval treated as having been granted under section 90 by paragraph 91 (7) (a) of the Act.
(1) In this Determination, subject to subsection (2):
commercial establishment means premises:
(a) in a shopping centre; and
(b) occupied by, or likely to be occupied by:
(i) a shop where goods, food or beverages are sold retail; or
(ii) a bar, café, restaurant or takeaway; or
(iii) a business that provides services to customers.
(2) For subsection (1), commercial establishment does not include:
(a) commercial office space; or
(b) premises occupied by an accountant, analyst, architect, engineer, lawyer, planner, real estate agent, stockbroker or surveyor; or
(c) premises occupied by an insurance company, agent or broker, unless the premises are occupied as a shopfront for an insurance company; or
(d) a council office or government or statutory corporation office or shopfront, other than an Australia Post or Australian Broadcasting Corporation shop or a Medicare shopfront; or
(e) a library; or
(f) a kindergarten or preschool; or
(g) a child care centre or child minding facility, unless the centre or facility is regularly available for use by customers of the shopping centre while the customers are at the shopping centre; or
(h) a storeroom or storage area; or
(i) a temporary selling point; or
(j) an automatic teller machine or automatic dispensing machine.
8 Measurement of distance between premises
(1) In this Determination, a reference to the distance between 2 premises in a straight line is a reference to the distance, measured in a straight line, from the centre, at ground level, of the public entrance of the first premises to the centre, at ground level, of the public entrance of the second premises.
(2) In this Determination, a reference to the distance between 2 premises by the shortest lawful access route is a reference to the distance, measured by following the shortest lawful access route between the 2 premises, from the centre, at ground level, of the public entrance of the first premises to the centre, at ground level, of the public entrance of the second premises.
(3) If either premises has more than 1 public entrance, a reference to the distance between the 2 premises is a reference to the shortest such measurement that can be made in relation to the 2 premises.
Part 2 Recommendations by the Authority
9 When Authority must recommend approval of applicant
The Authority must recommend that an applicant be approved under section 90 of the Act in respect of particular premises if:
(a) for an application that involves the cancellation of an approval (the existing approval) that is in force in respect of approved premises (the existing premises):
(i) the application states that it is of a kind mentioned in column 2 of an item of Part 1 of Schedule 1; and
(ii) the requirements set out in column 3 of that item are met; and
(iii) the requirements set out in Schedule 2 and Part 1 of Schedule 3 are met; and
(iv) for an application described in column 2 of an item of Part 2 of Schedule 3 — the requirement set out in column 3 of that item is met; and
(b) for an application to which paragraph (a) does not apply:
(i) the application states that it is of a kind mentioned in column 2 of an item of Part 2 of Schedule 1; and
(ii) the requirements set out in column 3 of that item are met; and
(iii) the requirements set out in Schedule 2 are met.
10 When Authority must recommend applicant not be approved
The Authority must recommend that an applicant not be approved under section 90 of the Act in respect of particular premises if a requirement that, under paragraph 9 (a) or (b), applies in relation to the application is not met.
Schedule 1 Kinds of applications, and requirements in relation to those applications
(section 9)
Part 1 Applications involving cancellation of existing approval
Item | Kind of application | Requirements | ||
101 | Relocation within shopping centre or private hospital | 1. The proposed premises are in the same large or small shopping centre or private hospital as the existing premises. 2. The existing approval was granted: (a) following an application of a kind mentioned in item 109, 110 or 111 of this Schedule; or (b) following a recommendation by the Authority: (i) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 8 of 2006 made on 6 January 2006; or (ii) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 8 of 2000 made on 11 July 2000; or (iii) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 13 of 1998 made on 22 June 1998; or (iv) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 13 of 1997 made on 19 September 1997; or (v) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 21 of 1996 made on 11 December 1996; or (vi) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 18 of 1995 made on 14 December 1995; or (vii) in accordance with section 7 of Determination No. PB 6 of 1995 made on 2 May 1995; or (viii) in accordance with paragraph 3 (eaa) or (eab) of Determination No. PB 9 of 1993 made on 8 July 1993; or (ix) in accordance with paragraph 3 (eaa) or (eab) of Determination No. PB 6 of 1993 made on 22 April 1993; or (c) following an application: (i) of a kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AA) or (3AE) of the Act; and (ii) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b). | ||
102 | Relocation within rural locality | 1. The proposed premises are in the same rural locality as the existing premises. 2. The proposed premises are at least 10 km, by the shortest lawful access route, from the nearest approved premises other than the existing premises. | ||
103 | Expansion or contraction | The application: (a) is of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AE) of the Act; and (b) has been referred to the Authority under subsection 90 (3AF) of the Act. | ||
104 | Short distance relocation (1 km) | 1. The proposed premises are no more than 1 km, in a straight line, from the existing premises. 2. Either: (a) the existing premises are not in a private hospital or large shopping centre; or (b) the existing premises are in a private hospital or large shopping centre, and: (i) the proposed premises are at least 500 m, in a straight line, from all approved premises other than approved premises in the private hospital or large shopping centre; or (ii) the Authority is satisfied that, before 27 March 2007, the applicant had a legal right to occupy the proposed premises. | ||
105 | Short distance relocation (more than 1 km) | 1. The proposed premises are more than 1 km, but not more than 1.5 km, in a straight line, from the existing premises. 2. Either: (a) the existing premises are not in a private hospital or large shopping centre, and the proposed premises are at least 500 m, in a straight line, from all approved premises other than approved premises that are no more than 1 km, in a straight line, from the existing premises; or (b) the existing premises are in a private hospital or large shopping centre, and: (i) the proposed premises are at least 500 m, in a straight line, from all approved premises other than approved premises in the private hospital or large shopping centre; or (ii) the Authority is satisfied that, before 27 March 2007, the applicant had a legal right to occupy the proposed premises. | ||
106 | Long distance relocation | The proposed premises are: (a) at least 1.5 km, in a straight line, from the nearest approved premises; or (b) if paragraph (a) does not apply — at least 2 km, by the shortest lawful access route, from each approved premises that is within 1.5 km, in a straight line, from the proposed premises. | ||
107 | Relocation to rural locality (additional pharmacy) | 1. The proposed premises are in a rural locality. 2. The proposed premises are at least 200 m, in a straight line, from the nearest approved premises. 3. The Authority is satisfied that: (a) the resident population of the catchment area for the proposed premises is, for most of the year, at least 8 000; and (b) the number of prescribing medical practitioners practising in the catchment area for the proposed premises is equivalent to at least 4 full‑time prescribing medical practitioners; and (c) the catchment area for the proposed premises contains only 1 approved premises; and (d) the pharmacy operating from the approved premises mentioned in paragraph (c) has not, in the 3 years before the day on which the application is made, been involved in an amalgamation with a pharmacy that had operated from other approved premises in the same rural locality, other than an amalgamation that occurred on or after 1 July 2006. | ||
108 | Relocation to urban locality (additional pharmacy) | 1. The proposed premises are not in a rural locality. 2. The proposed premises are at least 500 m, in a straight line, from the nearest approved premises. 3. The Authority is satisfied that: (a) the resident population of the catchment area for the proposed premises: (i) is, for most of the year, at least 8 000; and (ii) has grown by at least 5% in each of the 2 years before the day on which the application was made; and (b) the catchment area for the proposed premises contains only 1 approved premises. | ||
109 | Relocation to small shopping centre | 1. The proposed premises are in a small shopping centre. 2. The proposed premises are at least 500 m, in a straight line, from the nearest approved premises. 3. There are no approved premises in the shopping centre. | ||
110 | Relocation to large shopping centre | 1. The proposed premises are in a large shopping centre. 2. There are: (a) for a shopping centre that contains at least 30, but fewer than 100, commercial establishments — no approved premises in the shopping centre; or (b) for a shopping centre that contains at least 100, but fewer than 200, commercial establishments — no more than 1 approved premises in the shopping centre; or (c) for a shopping centre that contains at least 200 commercial establishments — no more than 2 approved premises in the shopping centre. | ||
111 | Relocation to private hospital | 1. The proposed premises are in a private hospital. 2. There are no approved premises in the private hospital. 3. The hospital authority for the private hospital is not approved under section 94 of the Act. | ||
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| 4. The private hospital is registered or licensed, under the law of the State or Territory in which the private hospital is located: (a) to contain at least 150 beds to provide health services to patients; or (b) to treat, accommodate or lodge at least 150 patients at any one time. | ||
112 | Relocation to large medical centre | 1. The proposed premises are in a large medical centre. 2. The proposed premises are at least 500 m, in a straight line, from the nearest approved premises. 3.(1) The Authority is satisfied that, at all relevant times, the number of prescribing medical practitioners practising at the medical centre was equivalent to at least 8 full‑time prescribing medical practitioners. (2) For this item, all relevant times means: (a) on the day on which the application was made; and (b) in each of the 6 months before that day. 4. The Authority is satisfied that the applicant will make all reasonable attempts to ensure that the operating hours of the proposed premises will meet the needs of the patients of the medical centre. | ||
Part 2 Applications not involving cancellation of existing approval
Item | Kind of application | Requirements | ||
113 | New pharmacy (urban locality) | 1. The proposed premises are not in a rural locality. 2. The proposed premises are at least 1.5 km, in a straight line, from the nearest approved premises. 3. The Authority is satisfied that: (a) the resident population of the catchment area for the proposed premises is, for most of the year, at least 3 000; and (b) the number of prescribing medical practitioners practising in the catchment area for the proposed premises is equivalent to at least 1 full‑time prescribing medical practitioner. | ||
114 | New pharmacy (rural locality) | The proposed premises: (a) are in a rural locality; and (b) are at least 10 km, by the shortest lawful access route, from the nearest approved premises. | ||
Schedule 2 General requirements
(section 9)
Item | Requirement |
201 | The Authority is satisfied that: (a) the applicant had, on the date of the application, and has, on the date on which the Authority makes a recommendation in respect of the application, a legal right to occupy the proposed premises; and (b) the proposed premises, on the date of the application and on the date on which the Authority makes a recommendation in respect of the application: (i) could be used for the operation of a pharmacy under applicable local government and State or Territory laws relating to land development; and (ii) would be accessible by members of the public at large; and (c) within 6 months after the date on which the Authority makes a recommendation in respect of the application, the applicant will be able to begin operating a pharmacy at the proposed premises; and (d) the proposed premises are not directly accessible by the public from within a supermarket. |
| Note Requirement 201 (b) (i) would be satisfied if, for example, planning approval for the proposed pharmacy has been obtained or, if this is not necessary in the State or Territory where the pharmacy would be located, the proposed premises are on land that is zoned so as to enable the operation of a pharmacy. An application to obtain a building works approval or a certificate of occupancy, or similar, is not required to satisfy this requirement. However, it may be needed for compliance with requirement (c), depending on the operation of applicable State or Territory land development laws. |
Schedule 3 Requirements for applications involving cancellation of existing approval
(section 9)
Item | Requirement |
301 | The Authority is satisfied that: (a) the pharmacist approved in respect of the existing premises has requested, in writing, that, if an approval is to be granted in respect of the proposed premises, the existing approval will be cancelled immediately before the approval is granted; and (b) if the pharmacist approved in respect of the existing premises has ceased to carry on business as a pharmacist at the existing premises, the Secretary: (i) is aware of the cessation and of the reasons for it; and (ii) has agreed to cancel the existing approval only in accordance with a request of the kind mentioned in paragraph (a). |
302 | The Authority is satisfied that: (a) on the date the application is made, 1 or more approvals in respect of the existing premises have been in force for a total of at least 2 years; or (b) if paragraph (a) does not apply: (i) the proposed premises are in the same private hospital or large shopping centre as the existing premises; or (ii) the existing premises are the only approved premises in a particular rural locality, and the proposed premises are in the same rural locality; or (iii) the purpose of the application is to allow the pharmacy operated by the applicant at the existing premises to move to the proposed premises while the existing premises are renovated or refurbished; or (iv) the proposed premises are renovated or refurbished premises that are the same, or substantially the same, premises previously occupied by the pharmacy operated by the applicant or by the previous owner of the pharmacy; or (v) there are exceptional circumstances; or (vi) both: (A) the application involves the cancellation of an existing approval that was granted following an application of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AE) of the Act; and (B) the existing approval, and the approval the cancellation of which was involved in the application for the existing approval, have been in force for a total of at least 2 years; or |
(vii) the application: (A) is of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AE) of the Act; and (B) has been referred to the Authority under subsection 90 (3AF) of the Act. Note See subsection 6 (4) in relation to paragraph (a). |
Part 2 Particular applications
Item | Description of application | Requirement |
303 | An application involving the cancellation of an existing approval in respect of existing premises in a rural locality, the existing approval for which was granted: (a) following an application of the kind mentioned in item 114 of Schedule 1; or (b) following a recommendation by the Authority: (i) under paragraph 5 (b) of Determination No. PB 8 of 2006 made on 6 January 2006; or (ii) under paragraph 5 (b) of Determination No. PB 8 of 2000 made on 11 July 2000; or (c) following an application: (i) of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AA) or (3AE) of the Act; and (ii) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in paragraph (a) or (b). | The proposed premises are in the same rural locality as the existing premises. |
304 | An application involving the cancellation of an existing approval in respect of existing premises in a rural locality, the existing approval for which was granted: (a) following an application described in item 303; or (b) following an application described in this item; or (c) following a recommendation by the Authority: (i) under section 6 or 7, and in accordance with section 9, of Determination No. PB 8 of 2006 made on 6 January 2006; or (ii) under section 6 or 7, and in accordance with section 9, of Determination No. PB 8 of 2000 made on 11 July 2000; or (d) following an application: (i) of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AA) or (3AE) of the Act; and (ii) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in paragraph (a), (b) or (c). | The proposed premises are in the same rural locality as the existing premises. |
305 | An application of the kind mentioned in item 104 or 105 of Schedule 1 involving the cancellation of an existing approval in respect of existing premises in a private hospital, small or large shopping centre or large medical centre, the existing approval for which was granted: (a) following an application of the kind mentioned in item 109, 110, 111 or 112 of Schedule 1; or (b) following an application: (i) of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AA) or (3AE) of the Act; and (ii) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in paragraph (a); or (c) following an application: (i) of the kind mentioned in item 101 of Schedule 1; and (ii) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in paragraph (a). | The Authority is satisfied that there are exceptional circumstances. |
306 | An application: (a) involving the cancellation of an existing approval in respect of existing premises, the existing approval for which was granted: (i) following an application of the kind mentioned in item 113 of Schedule 1; or (ii) following an application: (A) of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AA) or (3AE) of the Act; and (B) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in subparagraph (i); and (b) that is made within 5 years after the date on which the approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in subparagraph (a) (i) was granted. | The proposed premises are not more than 1.5 km in a straight line from the existing premises. |
307 | An application: (a) involving the cancellation of an existing approval in respect of existing premises, the existing approval for which was granted: (i) following an application described in item 306; or (ii) following an application described in this item; or (iii) following an application: (A) of the kind mentioned in subsection 90 (3AA) or (3AE) of the Act; and (B) that involved the cancellation of an approval granted in the circumstances mentioned in subparagraph (i) or (ii); and | The proposed premises are not more than 1.5 km in a straight line from the premises in respect of which the approval mentioned in paragraph (b) of column 2 was granted. |
| (b) that is made within 5 years after the date on which an approval in respect of premises in the catchment area in which the existing premises are located was first granted following an application of the kind mentioned in item 113 of Schedule 1. |
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Notes to the National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2006
Note 1
The National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2006 (in force under subsection 99L (1) of the National Health Act 1953) as shown in this compilation is amended as indicated in the Tables below.
For all relevant information pertaining to application, saving or transitional provisions see Table A.
Table of Instruments
Title | Date of FRLI registration | Date of | Application, saving or |
National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2006 | 23 June 2007 (see F2006L01949) | I July 2006 |
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National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2007 (No. 1) | 26 Mar 2007 (see F2007L00828) | 27 Mar 2007 | S. 4 |
National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Determination 2009 (No. 1) | 16 Mar 2009 (see F2009L00832) | 17 Mar 2009 | S. 4 |
Table of Amendments
ad. = added or inserted am. = amended rep. = repealed rs. = repealed and substituted | |
Provision affected | How affected |
Part 1 |
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S. 6................. | am. 2009 No. 1 |
S. 6A................ | ad. 2009 No. 1 |
Schedule 1 |
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Schedule 1............ | am. 2007 No. 1; 2009 No. 1 |
Schedule 2 |
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Schedule 2............ | am. 2007 No. 1; 2009 No. 1 |
Schedule 3 |
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Schedule 3............ | am. 2007 No. 1 |
Table A Application, saving or transitional provisions
National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Amendment Determination 2007 (No. 1)
4 Application
The amendments made by this Determination apply to the consideration of an application by the Authority on or after 27 March 2007.
National Health (Australian Community Pharmacy Authority Rules) Amendment Determination 2009 (No. 1)
4 Application
The amendments made by this Determination apply to the consideration, by the Authority, of an application made on or after 17 March 2009.